
Shortly before the end of their third successful UK tour on the Sin and Bones album cycle, we were fortunate enough to get a chance to sit down with vocalist, Chris Jericho, and guitarist, Rich Ward, before their penultimate gig of their headline tour in Leicester. We asked them just why the UK loves them so much, what to expect from the next album scheduled for release next year, the craziest thing they've ever done for their favourite band and more!
Joobs: So
this is the 3rd tour of Sin and Bones for you guys, and from our experience the
crowds are getting better and better... Were you expecting this kind of
response?
Chris:
Well, we've done a lot of work. I think you could say we've done a good job in
building up our fanbase here. We've been coming here for 7 or 8 years, and I
think the thing that we do that a lot of bands don't from what I hear, is that
we don't just play London, Manchester, Nottingham and Birmingham. We're going
to Rugby, Leicester, Exeter, Yeovil, Middleborough, Grimsby... we go
everywhere! I think that's one of the reasons why the band has grown so much in
the UK and why we have such a great fanbase; it's because we take it to the
streets, so to speak. We were talking last night... You guys were at the show
in Glasgow; it was a great show! A sold out show! We were talking to the
promoter after and he was like, "most bands don't tour in August because
it's festival season and a lot of people don't have money", yet here we
are. I think we did four sell outs out of
seven on this tour, and everyone is just over the moon at how good it's
been... That's because of the great fanbase that we've built. As you said, this
is our third tour of the UK in the last nine months on the same record – four
if you count download last year! So, I think it's a pretty cool place for us to
be, and that's why we get out here so much... and because we love coming over
here, we've really worked hard to cultivate this fanbase and to see it grow is
really, really gratifying.
J:What are
your highlights of the tour so far? This is the 7th of the 8 shows you are
doing here.
C: Yeah,
so it's our 14th show in 15 days. My
highlight probably for Europe was Wacken. Just to be on Wacken for the first
time was an amazing experience. Bloodstock was awesome, obviously! And
Stourbridge and Glasgow are my two favourite shows of this tour so far, as far
as crowd intensity, chants, energy... everything was just really cool. How
about you, Rich?
Rich: The
Glasgow crowd was definitely one of the highlights. I've never seen a crowd act
like a living, breathing organism. They were all working together as one!
C: Yeah.
R: For me,
the best gig of the tour was Bloodstock. I feel like we played really, well as
a band. The sound was great, the crowd was great... and it's nice playing big
stages. We're a very energetic band and it's nice to be able to stretch out a
bit. A lot of people don't realise, when they're out in the audience, that it's
a delicate balance of what we do on stage. I'm constantly watching Chris, he's
watching for me, you know, we're all making sure that it looks like there's
organisation to the chaos. On a big stage you don't have to worry about any of
that. You can just go, and that's really cool because you are just wide
open.
Leese: You
regularly say the UK is your second home and you've been coming back for 8 and
a half years now. Why do you think the UK has caught on so much? A lot of bands
will take a year and a half break before they come back, yet you guys are
sometimes here 2 or 3 times a year.
C: Sometimes,
I think maybe, we are over saturating too much, but when you're doing good
numbers I guess it's kind of wrong to think that. I'm not sure exactly why the
UK embraced us first, but this was definitely the first territory that really
got behind Fozzy.
I still
tell the story of the first show we did in Nottingham at Rock City. I still
remember walking on stage and thinking "where the fuck have all these
people come from?" I mean, we'd never played to that big of a crowd
before! If it wasn't sold out it was close to it. That was like "holy
smokes, man, this is great." Some shows are better than others and some
aren't great, but as a whole, 80% of the shows we play are great crowds; loud
crowds. I'm not sure exactly why... Maybe people just like more of what they
like here. It's not influenced as much by radio or television or whatever it
may be. I guess that’s why, when you go to Download, there's such an eclectic
line up and people enjoy ALL the bands.
R: I'd probably
say part of it is the unseen factors, which is that this is the music business.
The business side has been very organised in the UK from day one. We've had
good agents. Adam Elfin brought us in and was on fire to book us at the very
beginning. We had great record companies here, whereas in the States we didn't.
That's why Australia has been good for us because John Howarth (Riot
Entertainment) has been a big champion for us. It's a matter of getting the
doors opened for us, and in the States we've had less success until the last
couple of years. It wasn't because of us; it was because we didn't have the
mechanisms in place to push open those doors. I think from my perspective, a
lot of it has to do with just that. We're no different of a band when we play
the States from when we play here. I just think the organisation has been
better here... (to Chris) Right?
C: Yeah, a
little bit. That could be it....
R: Or it
could just be...
C: One of
those things. I remember reading Dee Snider's book a couple of months ago and
he said Twisted Sister was huge in England before they had anything going on in
the States.
R: Same
with Hendrix.
C:
Hendrix, yeah, exactly. So sometimes that's just the way it goes. We don't
really question it. We go with it and make sure that we reward our loyal
fanbase by coming over here as much as we can.
J: We'd
like to say congratulations on the announcement of your new album!
C: Oh,
cool. Thanks.
J: I
understand you've already tentatively started the writing process. When are you
looking for a release date?
C: We want
to have it out for next summer, you know, and tie that in with coming over here
for the festival season to begin.
J: (whispers) Download?
C: Yeah,
hopefully Download. Every tour we do we open some more doors. As brilliant as
the UK, Australia and lots of other places have been, there's still a lot of
places that won't have us. They are still a little bit tentative as to... what
is this Fozzy thing? So what we do best is just keep coming back, keep knocking
on the fucking door! Next year we want HellFest, we want Polish Woodstock, we
want to go to Japan, South America, and all those places that are too snobby
for us right now. We wanna get over there and kick their fucking asses and
they'll leave wondering why they waited so long, just like we always do! We
really got a lot of momentum from Sin and Bones, things went above and beyond
what we were expecting, and when you have momentum in this business you have to
capitalise on it. We can't afford to do a Metallica and wait five years for the
next record. As long as the record is good... as good or better than Sin and
Bones, let's fucking put it out and do it! I think we are really focused in on
what we do best as a band, and as song writers, and as players, that I have no
doubt the next record will be better than Sin and Bones.
J: What
kind of things can we expect from the new album? Have you got a feel for how
it's going to go yet?
R: We're
an organic band. We don't try to have any blueprints; we just kind of go into
it and just see what happens. I think that's a much better way to construct an
album. Chris has written his lyrics, but we leave the door open to continuing
to work even though he's handed in 14 or 15 sets of lyrics.
C: Just as
a template to start writing.
R: We always
communicate. There's always, "hey, I'm working on this song here, can you
write in an extra verse?" or "can we change this?" It's very organic. It's never boardroom
meetings saying we should do this, or we should do that. I feel like it works
better that way. You know, as people... The reason they used to call them
records is because they are a record of who this artist was at that moment in
time. Like the Beatles first record, it was who those dudes were, as a group,
at that moment. I think it's important to consider that to be a little
contrived takes away from that.
C: I think
the one plan that we have after the last two records, especially the last one..
What we do best as a band is very heavy riffs, very melodic choruses, with a
lot of vocal harmonies, and guitar harmonies. We kind of strayed away from that
at times, but especially with Sin and Bones, this was what we wanted to do and
every song fits that mould and we want to continue to do that because that's
another reason why I think we've grown as a band. We're a little bit different
from what's going on right now. We have a little bit of a different sound and
we like that, we really want to focus on that just like we did on Sin and Bones
which really paid off for us.
J: We were
saying, when we've been listening to a few albums, that we think we've been
spoilt by Sin and Bones. Other albums from bands... they've been very same-y
all the tracks have the same kind of riffs and things. But Sin and Bones is
completely different; each song has got a different catch.
(after 6 shows and a 5.5hr drive Joobs momentarily loses her
vocabulary)
C: It's
very diverse
J: Yeah,
that's the word I was looking for!
C:
(laughs) It still fits that tone and that mood. A little dark, very heavy, and
a lot of melodies and harmonies, which is something that Rich is really great
at. We love Metallica, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden and Dio. We love Avenged,
Bullet, Stone Sour and all those bands. But I think the difference for us is
that we also really love Journey, Styx, Foreigner, Pink Floyd, Queen, The
Beatles and The Stones. That kind of side of us is what makes us different.
It's the same thing with Avenged; Shadows loves Queen and Pink Floyd, and you
can hear those elements in their song writing. That's kind of what makes them a
little different from what's going on. You need to do that because I don't like
hearing records where every song is the same. It's very boring, and it puts you
in a box as a band. We don't like that. We don't want that. I like bands like
U2 and Zeppelin and The Beatles, who have a lot of different styles. It's still
them, but they can do all these different types of songs and people fucking dug
it and that's the way it should be.
J: As you
guys are probably fully aware, you see us in the crowd every day, we are
following the tour. A lot of people, including friends and family, have told us
that we are going too far and that it's a bit obsessive.....
C: I don't
think what you guys are doing is going too far or obsessive at all. I think
it's cool! What a great thing to do for your summer vacation or whatever...
R: I
followed Stryper on tour for a week, when I was a kid.
C: Yeah,
I've done it before for two or three gigs. But, I mean, fuck, I wish there was
10,000 people like you! It would be a lot easier for us.
J: So what
is the craziest thing you've ever done for your favourite bands?
C: In
Winnipeg there was a hotel called the Westin where all the bands stayed, and a
friend of mine knew somebody who worked there. Some chick that he was banging
would tell him what floor they were on, and he would get a room on the same
floor. So this one time we were on Metallica's floor, sitting in the room, door
open, waiting for someone to walk by and finally Hetfield walked by. It seemed
like he was 9ft tall he had his side shaved in '89 and nose piercings. I was
like "Fuck, there's Hetfield!!" I said “James!"
"Yeah?" "Ya wanna come in and party with us? We've got a six
pack of beer man! That's TWO EACH!"
"Naaah,
maybe later."
"Alright,
see you later, James! ...He said maybe later!"
So we sat
there for hours just waiting. He never came back. But at the time it was "fucking
two beers for you, two beers for me, and two for James!" (All laugh) The
other time was Maiden. I snuck onto the floor, knocked on every door until
finally Adrian Smith opened the door with his towel on. He had a towel on his
head... You know when someone has long hair and they do this with their hair?
(picks up a towel and proceeds to wrap it round his head) I was like "Hey,
can I have your picture?"
"I
just got out the shower... Maybe later."
"OK.
Thanks, man." He closed the door. "See you later, dude!"
I still
remember those days. I'm still a fan. So I appreciate it even more when we get
here, and there's kids outside waiting to say "hi" or whatever... I
mean, that was me! (to Rich)
Do you remember the craziest thing you did?
R: Just
waiting outside Stryper's bus at 2 o'clock in the morning. I was probably 19 or
20. I remember that it was freezing cold, it was February, and all the loyal fans
were all there and as it got later and colder... less people, less people, 'til
it was just me and my girlfriend, and they finally came out. I got to meet them
and I said "Man, are there any tickets available for tomorrow's show? We
really wanted to go to Charlotte tomorrow."
"Sure,
we'll just put you on the guest list."
We showed
up and they had passes for us, they invited us in, we had dinner with them and
catering and.....
C: Didn't
Michael Sweet also give you like cab fare or something like that?
R: Yeah!
He always said "You coming tomorrow night?"
"Yeah!"
So we were
with them for like five days and then on the last day he said "are you
coming tomorrow night?" I said "I can't, man, I've run out of money.
I don't even have gas money to get home." He said, "Oh, don't worry
about it. Here.” He gave me $20 for gas to get home and he said "one day
I'll probably need it so you can pay me back then." (everyone laughs) When
I met him I told him the story and gave him 20 bucks.
C: Did he
take it?
R: Yes.
C: He took
it?!
R: Yeah!
C: That's
the cool thing. Mike's a good friend of ours now, loves our band, respects us.
Whenever the guys you admired when you were growing up become your friends and
peers it's a pretty cool feeling. Like the anthrax gigs we did a couple of
weeks ago... I took two pictures: one of the merch stand; a Fozzy shirt and an
Anthrax shirt together. The other was the backstage pass that said Anthrax and
Fozzy on it. In 1988 I was waiting for tickets to see them on the KISS Crazy Nights
tour and here we are playing with them. Stuff like that's pretty cool. When we
played Soundwave in Australia, Metallica was headlining and we were watching
Slayer from side of the stage. Rich and Hetfield were standing next to each
other watching it. I took a picture of it. That was pretty cool.
L: On the
other side of it, is there anything crazy that fans have done for you, other
than following you around the country or baking cakes? (Joobs baked a cake in
April with figures of the band on)
C: Those
cakes were crazy! Not just your cake. Last night in Glasgow this lady made us
10 cakes; each one a different flavour and you know we don't eat a lot of
sweets on tour, if any at all! These 10 cakes came down and it was like...
German chocolate cake and an orange carrot cake, a lemon cake, a banana cake,
blah blah blah. We were giving them to opening bands, we were giving them to the
fans.... it was just like take 'em! Just take 'em and go! I think the thing
that still gets me the most is people that get Fozzy tattoos. That's serious
shit! It's pretty cool to know you've had an influence, especially song lyrics,
or our logos. It makes me realise we could never break up, 'cause if we do
people are going to be stuck with some tattoos (laughs) but that's as real as
it gets as far as being a fan.
L: So,
Invading the Pit is basically a blog written by female metal fans for other
female metal fans. I've travelled to see you guys, I've travelled to see
Avenged Sevenfold... There's always that stigma associated with it. "You must
be a groupie because you're a female fan and you're hanging around with the
band."

L: The
other day... Was it Newcastle? Joobs went into the pit and everybody stopped,
'cause there was a girl in the pit
J: So I
just started pushing and jumping around!
C: Haha!
L: Do you
think it should be that way or do you think, you know, she knows what she's
doing going into, she knows there's a chance she could get hurt and just wants
to enjoy it like the rest of them?
C: I
think, you know, when you go into the pit, everybody takes care of everybody
anyway. It's not like you start beating the shit out of anybody. You push each
other and have fun, and if someone falls down, I've seen it many times, you
help the guy up. So if you're a girl in there, I wouldn't look at it that way.
If you didn’t wanna get hurt, you wouldn't be in there in the first place. You
could be a 5" 2', hundred pound guy and go into the pit and be in more
danger than you are, so I think that if you're in the pit you know what you are
getting into.
R: Through
nature, guys are encoded to protect women. It's like... as far back. So when a
girl gets in the pit, it's not that anyone's looking down, we're just wired
that way. It's instinctual. It doesn't even matter if it's the human race...
It's just, in the animal species we're encoded to protect women so, you
shouldn't look at it as that men are looking at you differently, it's just
we're built that way. For better or for worse... Unfortunately we're expected
to work harder (all laugh).
L: We
asked for fan questions and they were mostly stupid ones, like my dad asking if
one of you would take me away with you and keep me for longer than a week.
(all
laugh)
R: Thanks,
Dad!
L: We had
a couple though. One was if you were a beer, what beer would you be and why?
C: A beer
or a bear?
L: Beer,
drink!
J: Alcohol!
J: Alcohol!
C: If I
was a bear I’d be a black bear, mainly because they're cool! Beer... I haven't
drank a beer in about three years. They just gave us the Trooper beer, so I
would probably maybe say that one just because it's Maiden beer. I haven't drank
beer in so long. It's funny, the other day we were in Switzerland, and the
crowd didn't know who we were at the start, some guy was like "hey!"
and gave me his beer, so I took a sip of fucking beer errgh the taste! I
realised how much I hate beer now! Jericho hates beer. That's your headline!
R: DOT COM!
C: Dot com. Dot org.
J: One
more fan question... If you weren't doing the careers you are doing now what
would you do?
C: (doing an impression of David from This Is Spinal
Tap) Be a full time dreamer!
R: (to Chris)
I was gonna say, you already have a stack of them. (Impersonating Chris) If I
wasn't being a rockstar, I would be a professional wrestler, or an actor, or an
author, or a father...
(all
laugh)
R: Me,
it's like... erm, serial killer.
C: (to
Rich) animal rescuer!
R: I play
the guitar and make music. It's not very exciting.
J: And
dance awesomely!
R: Yes,
that's true. I have patented many moves.
C: You
created dancing!
J: We're
actually going to petition to get a new DDR game: Duke Dance Revolution.
C: HAHAHA
R: It
cannot be replicated by any other guitar player. Many have tried, many have
failed!
(No t-shirts for this pic... If you saw the last video we posted on Facebook and Twitter, you'll know why!)
If you're in the United States, you can catch Fozzy on their tour with Saxon this Fall. For more information about Fozzy and to see the upcoming tour dates, visit the official website at FozzyRock.com. Also make sure to check them out on Facebook and Twitter!
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